Christian Woolmar speaks to HS2 and You on High Speed 2
In the first of a two part interview Christian Wolmar, former Independent transport correspondent,writer, broadaster and Mayor of London hopeful, gives his assessment of High Speed2, why the Chilterns have nothing to moan about and media coverage of fhe controversial scheme.
You’ve been an expert commentator and observer on transport since being The Independent’s transport correspondent so in your experience does anything compare to the kind of reception that HS2 has got from the public?
Certainly there been a lot of hostility towards HS2 although oddly enough the hostility has been in the wrong place. I don’ t think the people of the Chilterns have that strong a case against it because I don’t think it will do much damage, while the people of Camden have a very strong case to try to amend or scrap the scheme. It’s destroying 600 of their homes, and ploughing a furrow through a chunk of the borough.
Instinctively I want to support HS2 because I love the railways. They are the best form of transport and I make my living from writing about how wonderful they are. But HS2 is a very misconceived scheme. I think if it had been designed in a different way I would have bought it. Its separate from and it will absorb a lot of money out of the railway and will only serve the interest of a relatively narrow sort of people, those travelling between London, to the detriment of the other towns. It’s a very odd scheme in that there are two stations in London, two in Birmingham, one in the middle of nowhere between Nottingham and Derby and one in the middle of nowhere in Sheffield and two terminus station in Leeds and Manchester. There are no links or through connections and it’s also designed to travel at 400 km/h. Why do we need this in a very small country? The need for speed has limited the design of it. Overall it’s ill thought out.
How could a scheme so ill thought out have got so far and with such a high price tag?
It’s been done in a rush. Andrew Adonis, someone I admire greatly, wanted to see it through quickly so commissioned a report that was constrained by various factors such as it had to go to Old Oak Common. The question was never asked “how would we best improve Britain’s railway system?” the question instead was “where should we put a High Speed line?”
But I thought that Westminster and Whitehall were very good at spotting major projects that did not add up or more about preening political vanity. Why has the mechanism to challenge the credibility of the scheme broken down?
You have ask ‘what is it that is really driving this?’ It’s very strange that a Tory party that is often been hostile to public support for the railways has got so into this scheme and that it has got all party support without really being tested . Nobody has asked questions about it. I spoke with Mary Creagh (Labour Shadow Transport Secretary) about this and asked her whether she was going to actually scrutinise the scheme in a way that will ask basic questions, rather than just rubber stamping it. That’s what the Labour Party should be doing – Why is this a scheme with two stations in London, two in Birmingham? Why are all the stations either parkway stations or terminus stations with no actual through stations on the whole scheme that serve major conurbations?
Why doesn’t the UK need trains travelling at 400kmph?
Britain is a very small country and the time savings are not worth the environmental degradation either in the design of the line or the huge resources to speed those trains along the line. As you increase the speed of trains you increase their fuel consumption by the square of the difference in the increase of speed so you will use an awful lot of resources.
How have the German’s approached the relation between their high speed rail system and existing rail networks?
With the Deutsche Bahn the design of their High Speed network is very different partly because German’s don’t have one big central city like we do, but it has several major cities. But also their high speed trains go on and off the existing network onto dedicated lines and then then back on to existing networks. They have built bits of high speed lines in particular places. So they have mixed and matched rather than created a separate network.
Bradford MDC is one of a number of local councils that doesn’t see a north/south connection as being important. Investment particularly in east /west connections is more important, . Do you see much scope in local councils being put in the driving seat as far as transport investment is concerned?
I’m all in favour of giving more powers to Northern councils trying to come together to be the franchise authority. But they can only do that if they have got the resources to do it and if they don’t lose money from central Government. As a general point if you devolve transport responsibilities to local authorities they do want to spend the money on transport improvements. It is a popular form of spending. You only have to look at London and its transport budget. Scotland has devolved responsibility and Wales and they have all spent a lot of money on transport.
Bradford and other Met authorities do have powers and responsibility for transport and this includes pricing. Apparently the cap that limits council tax increases has been expanded to include fares and now Bradford cannot get the money they need in area for investment.
That is quite wrong. The localism agenda is completely dishonest. It is such a joke. It’s all about destroying local government and one way of doing it is by screwing them financially.
Sir David Higgins, you described as the only man who could pull HS2 out of the fire, says that he is going to reduce the cost of HS2 and bring it in on time. What are his chances?
It’s far too early to say. It’s going to be a complicated political process and I think until he comes out the other end of it we can’t say anything really. There’s a big delay already due to the incompetence of the Government who didn’t put all the necessary papers into the bill. This means the political process starts a month later than planned in April. This bill is 48,000 pages long and is going to be a nightmare process as well as a very lengthy one.
On making cost saving David Higgins said that you could start the work on the line from both (north and south) ends at the same time?
I was very surprised that he said this to the Transport Select Committee because the northern bill is not even yet in Parliament; they’re still at the consultation stage. That could only be archived by merging the two bills but you can’t do that now. Apparently Parliament can’t take the weight of two bills at the same time. So I don’t know how he could say he could do that.
You once wrote that the chances of HS2 going ahead was as sure a bet as Andy Murray winning Wimbledon. I suppose HS2 is unstoppable now?
I wrote that in the Evening Standard. I went on to say in the piece that there are now doubts about it. I still think its 60:40 that it will be built. If all 3 major parties remain sold on it – and Mary Creagh seems to be behind it, and with the Labour Councils behind it – not all of them – but those key ones like Birmingham, Manchester and Leeds are all in favour, you’ve got to bet on the fact that it will get built. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that it will be exactly the same as the existing scheme. There could be amendments to it. As a betting man I would say yes it probably is going to get built and when it gets built I will support it the best way I can. I can point out the inadequacies but I can also hope it will be a marvellous railway. It should be for £48 billion!
What would the Victorian railway pioneers that you have written about make of High Speed 2?
They would say “Oh God this is all too complicated.” It’s the wrong sort of railway, I’m sure they would pick up on the point. Let me put it this way; High Speed 2 is a designed like a motorway rather than a dual Carriage way and I think we need a dual carriageway. There is this obsession that everything has to be fast and the most expensive, is the best, but actually we need a healthy dual carriageway that links in with all the towns across Britain rather than being a motorway with very few exits and entrances. There are only 4 connections with the rest of the rail network. It’s just the wrong scheme.
On the critics of HS2 you said that Camden had a good case but the Chilterns didn’t. Which other areas have got a good case to beef about HS2?
I think the thing that where the Chilterns do have a good case is to ask why there isn’t a station somewhere in the middle between London and Birmingham. The reason why is because of the methodology behind the way that HS2 was drawn up. Any travel delays would clearly reduce the cost benefit ratio for the scheme as there would have been if there was a stop at Milton Keynes. There are ways of improving this that might perhaps come through the Parliamentary process.
There are very few transport correspondents on the ground these days , how well have the press performed in scrutinising HS2 in their absence?
I think not very well. They have been far too much focused towards the Chilterns for example and not towards an awful lot of other issues. Issues like whether its eating up money from the railways generally to Camden which has been much less covered than it should have been. There’s also been no investigation of the alternatives. I think the coverage has been very flat and very one dimensional.
What do you think are the stories that should be being dug into HS2 ?
Certainly Camden. If you go through that Bill line by line you will find all sorts of bizarre things. They plan to build a cycle way next to HS2 which I think is a rather interesting idea. They are doing a feasibility study of that, so there might be some potentially stories. The other thing to look at is how has Lille really done? Its always given as the example of HS2’s benefits. I think the benefits to Lille have been very narrow around the station but have not enormously improved the economy of Lille and other cities linked by the TGV. Has it really delivered the impacts that were promised? Professor John Tomaney at UCL has done a lot of work on this.
Do you think that connections between consultants and HS2 may also be something to pursue? Presumably there is a huge consultancy budget for all of this and secondment from the very infrastructure firms they have hired to do the work?
There’s undoubtedly a story there. Most of the pro HS2 lobby are definitely self interested. Jim Steer genuinely believes in this but will also profit enormously from this. Jim leads Greengauge 21 . There are very few neutral people in the stories. Some of the big consultancy firms and the like are big boosters and beneficiaries of the scheme. There are a couple of thousand people working for this and a lot of them are consultants. Its how the scheme was built.